Marguerite Ross refused to confirm tests used in ViP Dx are Lombardi et al.

[Tango]

Marguerite Ross refused to confirm that the tests used in ViP Dx were the same both qualitatively and quantitatively as the tests developed in Lombardi et al.

That speaks volumes for the safety of the american blood supply!!!


I haven't asked for permission to repost.  It's not worth it as you will see.

I asked if she could provide the details of the ViPDx assays as she said UNEVX were doing no testing.  This was after several emails where I tried to get an answer.  Here reply was, "NO".  Not even a polite, "sorry".

I asked "If the assays are clinically validated then that is incorrect.  So can you provide the details?".  She said I could not be told as, "You are asking for confidential and proprietary information", despite the Lombardi et al. assay details being in the paper, which anyone can view.

Huston we have a problem!!!

 

[Tango]

Really this is news.

[Stuart]

A PDF authored by Mike Hillerby 11/4/2009 2:18:29 PM titled "WPI release Diagnostic Test" states the following:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Frankie Vigil
R&R Partners
775-336-4555
frankie.vigil@rrpartners.com

Viral Immune Pathology Diagnostics Introduces New Test for XMRV Patients and Clinicians

-Net proceeds from test dedicated to further WPI research-

RENO, Nev. – The Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) has recently published a research study revealing the prevalence of XMRV in patients with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, ME/CFS or what has most recently been called, X associated neuro-immune disease, (XAND). In response to an overwhelming request for a diagnostic test for XMRV, WPI has temporarily agreed to allow Viral Immune Pathology Diagnostics (VIP Dx) to begin offering the identical tests that have been extensively validated using the same technology developed by Drs. Lombardi and Mikovits and their colleagues as reported in Science.

VIP Dx is a small state certified laboratory in Reno, Nevada that was formed in response to the September 11, 2001 crisis which resulted in the cessation of blood sample shipments between the United States and Europe. Faced with the loss of important lab tests impacting patients with neuro-immune diseases, the Whittemore family made the decision to support the lab in Reno.

“Our family made it possible for the lab to not only continue delivering diagnostic tests to doctors, but also help the WPI bring cutting edge biomarkers of disease to this field of medicine, such as the tests for XMRV,” said Annette Whittemore, Founder and President of WPI. “Tests conducted for XMRV, and other tests that support the diagnostic process in this field, will support the continuation of vital work at WPI through our donation of all of our net proceeds.”

XMRV test acceptance commenced at VIP Dx this month.

For more information about the XMRV test kit, visit www.vipdx.com.

Whittemore Peterson Institute

The Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease exists to bring discovery, knowledge, and effective treatments to patients with illnesses caused by acquired dysregulation of the immune system and the nervous system, often resulting in lifelong disease and disability. The WPI is the first institute in the world dedicated to neuro-immune diseases, integrating patient treatment, basic and clinical research and medical education.

(Bold italics are my own)

Document Attached

Was this statement true or not?

WPI has temporarily agreed to allow Viral Immune Pathology Diagnostics (VIP Dx) to begin offering the identical tests that have been extensively validated using the same technology developed by Drs. Lombardi and Mikovits and their colleagues as reported in Science.

[Tango]

Yep and now they won't confirm that they have been using that test.  So what has Vinnie been doing?

[since]

Really this is news.

V99 you need to use better judgement about what to post where. I'm sorry to tell you this but you are not a newsmaker. Your emails to a lab asking about a test are not news. The most appropriate place is in the lab testing section.

[Tango]

Yet you have a post in the research relevance on this subject.  What tests were they using.

[jace]

As Dr Yes said on another thread

Guys I think this ongoing speculation based on scattered quotes and perhaps bits of personal communications is a waste of energy and is becoming counterproductive. 

[Tango]

As Dr Yes said on another thread

It's not speculation she refused to answer the question.

[jillNZ]

Haven't we had Judy herself say that she wasn't happy about the VIPdx testing, and that for the last 2 years she has been asking why the tests are being sold.? Hve I read this wrongly?

[Tango]

Yes

[jace]

Judy was quoted as saying that by Dr. Jamie.  We have no confirmation that this is absolute fact.  A daughter, at present studying science, said randomly to me yesterday as she perused an assignment "Facts are indisputable.  Opinions can be debated".  She was thinking out loud.

Facts can be referenced.  There is no reference for Dr Mikovits' opinion of the VIPdx test, and I doubt there ever will be.

[Tango]

Judy was quoted as saying that by Dr. Jamie.  We have no confirmation that this is absolute fact.  A daughter, at present studying science, said randomly to me yesterday as she perused an assignment "Facts are indisputable.  Opinions can be debated".  She was thinking out loud.

Facts can be referenced.  There is no reference for Dr Mikovits' opinion of the VIPdx test, and I doubt there ever will be.

I thought that was in Science as a quote? 

[jillNZ]

So. In my mind - until I'm told otherwise, I have to assume that Judys upset by the tests going commercial, was because , it was too early and she was v uncomforatable about it. But, does this mean that they weren't detecting HGRVs at all? That to me is the question. If someone is positive are they still positive, if negative (like theyv always said) they may not be negative. We all knew that VIPDx tests were research and subject to change. What we didn't know was that Judy wasn't happy about it. Have I got this straight?

[jillNZ]

Judy was quoted as saying that by Dr. Jamie.  We have no confirmation that this is absolute fact.  A daughter, at present studying science, said randomly to me yesterday as she perused an assignment "Facts are indisputable.  Opinions can be debated".  She was thinking out loud.

Facts can be referenced.  There is no reference for Dr Mikovits' opinion of the VIPdx test, and I doubt there ever will be.

Thanks Jace - that is true. opinion is just that. I keep that in mind when I read JDJ. Had forgotten where I read it and still can't remember. Basically we need to hear Judys full story - without all the specualtion and middlemen

[Tango]

So. In my mind - until I'm told otherwise, I have to assume that Judys upset by the tests going commercial, was because , it was too early and she was v uncomforatable about it. But, does this mean that they weren't detecting HGRVs at all? That to me is the question. If someone is positive are they still positive, if negative (like theyv always said) they may not be negative. We all knew that VIPDx tests were research and subject to change. What we didn't know was that Judy wasn't happy about it. Have I got this straight?

No.  I am sure Judy said that she wanted proof that the ViPDx assays are those from Lombardi et al., which they wouldn't give.  And this person who we were told would answer question has refused to confirm they are the same assays.

There is not one reason I can think of to say they are the assays if they are, but if they are not, then I can see why they would say nothing.