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New Lyme disease test
« on: September 13, 2011, 10:38:46 PM »
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 New Borrelia Culture Test - Faster & More Accurate  September 5, 2011 Joe Burrascano, Jr., MD has announced a new lab test available for Lyme doctors to use in determining if Lyme is present.  There is no need to wait for antibodies to form since this is a culture-based test.  This should provide much faster and more accurate detection, and allow Lyme patients to receive treatment as soon as possible.  Please read below for Dr. Burrascano's description of the new test:     In my work as a consultant, I have been working with a private lab located near Philadelphia, Advanced Laboratories, Inc. They wanted to develop a unique and high value test, and, with my interest in Lyme, I naturally encouraged them to work on a better Lyme Disease test.   
 As a result of some very intensive work on the part of a group of some very brilliant scientists, they have succeeded in developing a reliable and rapid blood culture for Borrelia! See the attached press release.   
 They actually have rolled out two separate panels- a basic one and an advanced one.  In the basic panel, the blood sample is cultured and the positives are identified by histology and growth characteristics, and confirmed by fluorescent immunostaining. Positive reports will include a picture of the Bb growing in that very culture. The advanced panel will do this, but will also do PCR using well characterized and published DNA primer sets, and then all positive PCRs will be confirmed by DNA sequencing.   
 Remarkably, turn-around time can be as brief as ten days for the basic test, and seven to ten more days for the advanced panel.   
 This test is being rolled out gradually, with no big public announcements yet. That is why I am e-mailing you, so you can be among the first to be able to order this testing, before the lab gets swamped. Apparently you have to contact the lab to have test kits sent to you. The blood must be sent out the same day it is collected, and the lab provides a prepaid return FedEx mailer. As the lab is not yet accepting specimens over weekends, please do not collect blood on Fridays.   
 The bad news- New York being New York, this culture will not be available to NY State practitioners for several months. The States of California and Florida may have a delayed availability- I am not sure, so please contact the lab to get this info. However, all other states are OK.   
 I have no idea on pricing or on insurance issues- again, you will have to contact them for this info. The lab plans to have a booth at the conferences at LDA and at ILADS, so hopefully their presence will allow all to field questions.   
 The next step in their research is also equally exciting and ground breaking, but I am not at liberty to say yet what is being planned.   
 I will be travelling over the rest of this week, so I am afraid that I may not be able to answer any calls or e-mails until I get back, so if I do not respond to any contact efforts, please be patient.     
 As many of you recall, I learned the basics of true, clinical Lyme over 25 years ago thanks to Bb culturing that was available to me by Dr. Alan MacDonald. The new methods being used by this Pennsylvania lab go far beyond what MacDonald was able to do, so I am very excited to not only share this news with you, but I also cannot wait to see how it will change how we practice.   
 I also predict that Bb will be found in a lot of people, from mildly to severely ill, and that will redefine the role of the immunologist in Lyme to find out why some people recover and why others do not. Strain info as provided by the DNA sequencing data will be equally fascinating to follow.   
 So, enjoy the good news, and PLEASE, if you are going to begin culturing your patients, keep good records of your results. Data collection and tabulation has never been as important as it is now, with a quantum advance in testing technology.       
 Best wishes, from  Dr. B................................!   
Press release: http://researchednutritionals.com/Announcements/LymeCultureTest.pdf

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Re: New Lyme disease test
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 12:18:04 PM »
This could be good news.  Joe Burrascano generally has a pretty reputation in the Lyme community.  I would love to know once and for all whether Lyme is (still?) an issue with me.  It makes so much so sense in my case being from New England an am 100% sure I've been bitten.

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Re: New Lyme disease test
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 12:48:33 PM »
This could be good news.  Joe Burrascano generally has a pretty reputation in the Lyme community.  I would love to know once and for all whether Lyme is (still?) an issue with me.  It makes so much so sense in my case being from New England an am 100% sure I've been bitten.

I too am from NE and a Lyme endemic area as a child. Although the EBV triggered my ME I really want to take this test to rule out Lyme involvement once and for all also. 

I was bitten by ticks a lot as a young child too.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 01:14:21 PM »
Dr Burrascano is the Lyme King AND he's tight with the WPI. If you read both of these papers carefully, what they are saying is that this new test detects ALL the known strains of lyme (I believe there are over 300). The current test only detects ONE. So not only will they be able to identify strains, each strain reacts differently to antibiotics. They will now be able to taylor treatment to the specific strain instead of playing antibiotic russian roullette.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 02:37:16 PM »
Maria!  :-*

Do I understand correctly that you have to be off of all antibiotics for 4 weeks to take this test?

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 02:48:46 PM »
Yes I believe you have to be off all antibiotics for at least a month.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 04:50:33 PM »
Dr Burrascano is the Lyme King AND he's tight with the WPI. If you read both of these papers carefully, what they are saying is that this new test detects ALL the known strains of lyme (I believe there are over 300). The current test only detects ONE. So not only will they be able to identify strains, each strain reacts differently to antibiotics. They will now be able to taylor treatment to the specific strain instead of playing antibiotic russian roullette.

Yeah, but the bugaboo with Lyme is the co-infections.  So you could still be negative for Lyme but have Babesia, Bartonella, etc.  I've tested negative for the co-infections in the past but some well known Lyme docs are convinced that I have Babesia - without much evidence to support that belief.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 08:25:06 PM »
is this test more accurate than igenex or just labcorp and quests western blots and other mainstream (useless tests).....my very expensive igenex tests were inconclusive...which lyme docs says means you are poz....but after 2 years of taking iv abx i remained as sick, if not sicker than ever.....guess that's due to the hgrv's wreaking havoc in my biological neighborhood....damn little f'ers  ;)

is this new lyme test covered by medicare or any insurance at all....unlike the quite expensive igenex tests.....which are poo-pooed by many/most  docs...making our sick lives even more difficult to cope with....aaargh!!!!


did i mention how expensive the not covered by insurance igenex lyme tests that are not really conclusive are (i'm not bitter or anything) >:(

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 09:29:55 PM »
Yeah I got tested through Igenex and it is really expensive, I don't know how much these new tests are but I think it says they are much more accurate because it detects all the different strains. This was a letter sent out to doctors, it hasn't even been officially announced to the public yet I don't think?, I don't have any more information except what's in the letter and the press release.
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