I've been skeptical of Lipkin since day one, but with each additional "contribution" of his it seems clearer to me that he was brought in to make the science match the policy. Retroviruses were never supposed to be on the table and will never be allowed going forward. They are pushing for the "hit and run" theory which will allow the government to dump us back in the hands of the biopsychosocial parasites.
How else can one make sense of Lipkin's unabashedly unscientific remarks about the retroviral sequences in this case? The only case in which I think these dismissive remarks are remotely scientifically acceptable would be if retroviral sequences were found in equal percentages of cases and controls. However, this can't be discerned accurately when samples are pooled (even if cases were pooled separately from controls). Furthermore, there are potential concerns about sample selection that could skew results too.
It's shocking to me how blindly, even enthusiastically, so many patients are following Lipkin through numerous unscientific turns to a land of permanent medical exile.
Thank you for your opinion, Asleep.
My opinion differs from yours. I did not see any
unabashedly unscientific remarks about the retroviral sequences
. What I saw was a scientist who has made sincere and honest efforts to determine the cause of M.E. I saw him reporting what he has discovered, honestly and openly, giving us information to help us understand our disease and what he has discovered that might be helpful to us.
All of us speculate at times, including scientists and lawyers such as me. The fact that we speculate and label it as such does not negate the informational statements that we make.
Dr. Lipkin presented his speculation and he said it was speculation; he did not say that he had made a factual determination in the matter.
Frankly, as a lay person without much scientific education, I am interested in his speculation. He has a great deal of education and experience in these matters, and his opinion, which he stated as speculation, is very interesting to me because of his background.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion; but remember, it is simply your opinion, unless you have evidence to prove it as fact. I am also entitled to my opinion. My opinion is that Dr. Lipkin is an extremely knowledgeable and honest scientist who has been doing his best for years trying to help M.E. patients. I have seen no evidence that he has "sold out" anyone.
I am not a "true believer" in a retroviral cause of M.E. I simply do not have facts to support that belief. What I do believe is that M.E. is a physical illness with a physical cause. I do not think we get closer to discovering that cause by closing off promising avenues of investigation because they do not fit with what we would like to be true.
It is obvious from your statements that you believe there is a retroviral cause for M.E. That could, in fact, be true. But do we really know? The answer, at this point, is that we do not know. And since we do not know, I appreciate dedicated scientists such as Dr. Lipkin investigating all the promising avenues of investigation toward finding the cause of M.E. I would be unhappy if he closed off all the other avenues before having evidence that the particular chosen agent is the cause.
So, while I respect your opinion that M.E. has a retroviral cause, in my opinion this has not yet been proven and I am happy that Dr. Lipkin and other scientists are investigating other causal agents as well.