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http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/uk/rod-liddle-pretend-disabled-sun-article-causes-fury

  Rod Liddle has prompted a storm of furious Twitter and blog posts after writing about the "pretend disabled" in today's Sun newspaper.                        
   Liddle wrote that "being disabled is incredibly fashionable" and claimed that more and more people are saying that they are disabled in order to claim out-of-work benefits and "get one of those badges which lets you park wherever you want".

He also said that ME was "nothing too serious", writing: “My New Year’s resolution for 2012 was to become disabled. Nothing too serious, maybe just a bit of a bad back or one of those newly invented illnesses which make you a bit peaky for decades – fibromyalgia, or M.E.”

One person tweeted: "I think Rod Liddle could claim benefits. He's clearly in need of help, judging by this article."

Another said: "I'm amazed that Rod Liddle is still being published. I thought he slunk off in shame when he realised the role of Jeremy Clarkson was taken."

Google "rod liddle pretend disabled" and you will immediately see a raft of comments that include "Is Rod Liddle's column in today's Sun the most disgusting attack on disabled people yet?", while political blogging site leftfootforward.org said: "Rod Liddle is a nasty piece of work, peddling his equal-opportunities bigotry (he’ll be offensive to everyone – provided they’re different to him) to all-comers. This latest column is indeed horrible, but it’s anything but surprising."

The ME Association is non-too-impressed either, posting his article with the title: "That nice Mr Liddle in today’s ‘Sun’ viewspaper."

Comments posted underneath the article called for the Press Complaints Commission to look into his "discriminatory" and "defamatory" remarks.
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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 02:19:09 AM »
The guy is a jerk and I am not encouraging him. He does this kind of thing all the time and has been in trouble before for similar twatish comments. I certainly didn't repost his article but if you want to read it in full:

http://www.meassociation.org.uk/?p=10103

However, a couple of other newspaper blogs have run with it:

Telegraph thinks he has a point: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100132880/the-fake-disabled-are-crippling-our-economy/

Guardian is more critical: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2012/jan/26/rod-liddle-sun-column-disabled?INTCMP=SRCH


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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 02:58:38 AM »
Oh, he's back, is he. Poor Rod, he's now having to write in a down market rag like the Sun. Things really are on the slide. He should stick to his usual incompetence of contempt of court, I think.

Ah yes, and Delingpole, the infamous "nose holder" with his breath holding wonder cure for ME and the £££ course he was trying to push us towards. Unfortunately the Rituxumab story broke a day later, which spoilt that for him a bit. Personally I think he has bit of a nerve suggesting anyone's a fraud or faker. He shouldn't judge people by his own very low standards of behaviour.

What a despicable and loathsome pair.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 03:44:29 AM by Cytokine »
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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 04:22:42 AM »
Am not aware of Delingpole, Cytokine - would you be able to enlighten me? He was pushing something then I gather because of his 'ME-like illness'?

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 04:58:23 AM »
Am not aware of Delingpole, Cytokine - would you be able to enlighten me? He was pushing something then I gather because of his 'ME-like illness'?

It was a Daily Mail story, where he said he'd had some sort of illness "that was probably CFS" and had been "cured" by doing some sort of breathing exercise. But apparently you couldn't just buy a book on this breathing technique, you had go on this expensive course to be able to do it right, according to him. The story involved a few comical pictures of him holding his nose. The whole thing smacked of deliberately trivialising the illness and trying to flog an overpriced course to us "weak minded fools". I'd have been very curious to know if there was some sort of link between him and the person running the course.

There was a link on here to the story, but it was months ago. Might be able to find it if you google "Delingpole" and "CFS".
We just want to make the world dance, forget about the price tag. In Mikovits, Ruscetti and Lipkin I trust.

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 05:17:39 AM »
Many thanks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2052234/Buteyko-breathing-technique-I-beat-chronic-fatigue-learning-hold-breath.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

You know - I have a feeling I was approached about this nonsense at one point.

'My strength and stamina had gone. I had a persistent cough and worried it was heart trouble or cancer. After a year, and countless tests and scans, no cause was apparent.

Possibly it was chronic fatigue syndrome (ME), but my GP couldn’t say. There was nothing he could do for me, unless I fancied anti-depressants. I’m not going to bore you with details of everything I tried that didn’t work (including antibiotics, homeopathy, and diets), just about the one that did – Buteyko.

It sounds like a Japanese martial art but it’s a special breathing technique named after the man who invented it in the Soviet Union in the 1950s, a Ukrainian doctor called Konstantin Buteyko.'

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 12:10:07 PM »
Oh I like this....

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The final irony is: M.E/Fibro sufferers tend to be dedicated individuals who have pushed themselves to the limits of human endurance. Athletes, academics, and life's overachievers. And yet, we're labelled as lazy. So, the point is, with tongue firmly in cheek - if you haven't got M.E/Firbo, then you've simply not tried hard enough.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jason-reed/rod-liddle-and-me_b_1235199.html


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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 01:05:18 PM »
Thanks Ash. I also associated with this: 'We are the Skoda of medical conditions.'  :'(

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 01:10:05 PM »
 :o

In a survey not too long ago, it was found that Skoda drivers are the folk who are happiest with their cars. Perhaps they don't have unrealistic expectaions.  :P
Michael had a skoda for 13 years.
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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 01:16:23 PM »
A Skoda was my very first car! And my second! But I couldn't wait to move away from the stigma of course. That was back in the early 90's - I think Skoda's possess more street cred and are far more reliable now since they teamed up with VW and benefited from improved diagnostics. It was a great analogy I thought and a good article too for a change.

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 07:09:03 PM »
Llewellyn King might be surprised to learn that he is the "spokesman for the M.E Association," although I agree that he "beautifully conveys the extra turmoil that society projects."

(From Jason Reed's Huffington Post article.)
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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 08:02:29 PM »
I did find a use for the sun newspaper once - and I was astounded.
There was a big crowd of us rented a house in the counrtyside and, as it wasn't too far away, we took our new kitten, feeling he was too young to be put in a cattery.

So, the time came to get the cat-box together. I found an old copy of this rag lying around and used it to line the bottom of the box, under the litter.

I was a bit concerned.
After all, the rag is chock full of pee and poo to start off with - would it be able to absorb any more?

Much to our surprise, it did!

I was so impressed, I actually wrote them a letter, telling them of its amazing pee and poo capacity.

They didn't print it.   ::)
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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 06:13:03 AM »
Didn't get the Skoda reference - they only appeared down here in the last decade

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 02:39:34 PM »
Oh I like this....

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The final irony is: M.E/Fibro sufferers tend to be dedicated individuals who have pushed themselves to the limits of human endurance. Athletes, academics, and life's overachievers. And yet, we're labelled as lazy. So, the point is, with tongue firmly in cheek - if you haven't got M.E/Firbo, then you've simply not tried hard enough.

Well if it's all the same I'd rather NOT be lumped in with anothe bunch of mis-behaving self-destructing people, the burnt out workaholics, which has nothing to do with the disease ME.  Shades of yuppie flu by going down that road, or "stress" psychobabble/quackery. The day we get parity is when they realise we're just a typical ragbag of ordinary people, but in extraordinary circumstances, not some stereotype. We've had more than enough of "personality" drivel.

(BTW, why is it when you reply to a post with a quote in it, the quote is removed so you have to re-paste it? Kind of annoying.)

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Re: Rod Liddle 'pretend disabled' Sun article causes fury, 1/26/2012
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 10:00:16 AM »


Well if it's all the same I'd rather NOT be lumped in with anothe bunch of mis-behaving self-destructing people, the burnt out workaholics, which has nothing to do with the disease ME.  Shades of yuppie flu by going down that road, or "stress" psychobabble/quackery. The day we get parity is when they realise we're just a typical ragbag of ordinary people, but in extraordinary circumstances, not some stereotype. We've had more than enough of "personality" drivel.

(BTW, why is it when you reply to a post with a quote in it, the quote is removed so you have to re-paste it? Kind of annoying.)

Yeah. Although I wouldn't have put it quite like that, I'd agree. I was going to post on that before you said.

Although obviously I've certainly no desire for us to be labelled "lazy", apart from anything being that it's not the slightest bit true, I don't think the "high achiever" tag does us any favours either. It was the high flying city types coming down with it that created the derogatory "yuppy flu" label in the past.

Personally, although I went to university, I'd probably rate myself as a middling achiever with a talent or two. Although initially I tried to go back to work too early after contracting ME, there's pressure for just about anyone to do that after catching a virus, not just "workaholics". Whether it actually made any difference to my recovery (or rather lack of it) I'll never know.

Saying ME's mainly the preserve of high achievers is more likely than not to alienate ordinary people from understanding us. It may even make someone who doesn't fit that profile who has the disease feel like they can't have it or feel like a fake.

Better to say that ME is a disease that can be contracted by anyone from any walk of life, class, job, level of talent (or lack of). Anyone can get it, and it does not discriminate.

Other than that, the article seems like a pretty good response to Liddle's bigotted nonsense.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 10:03:05 AM by Cytokine »
We just want to make the world dance, forget about the price tag. In Mikovits, Ruscetti and Lipkin I trust.

Attempting to cure psychiatrists of their delusional false false illness belief, beliefs, one shrink at a time. ;)